Why Is An LEO Running Across Canada- Sach Latti

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Now let's jump right into this episode. All right. My very special guest today is such lati. They get it. . Yeah, you got the good man. That was pretty good. I only said it once and you got it, man. Rec. That was a record, record effort. . . It's one of my weak points in my life is, uh, spelling and pronouncing people's names cuz uh, especially when you come from Utah, nobody spells their name like, you know, traditionally.

So Definitely. No. Yeah, no, fair enough, man. But I think, um, it's good though. Awesome. We get to share different experiences, so let's do that. Yeah. So tell the audience about yourself. Okay, so my name is such, uh, Latti. I'm, uh, I'm Canadian. Uh, I live here in the Pacific Northwest, um, Vancouver area. And, um, I've been in law enforcement for the last 18 years.

Um, been working, um, with the border of security. So I'm, I'm, uh, a canine handler as well, and I have been so for the last four years. And, um, yeah, I've been doing that for 18 years. I, it did serve a small stint in the military. Um, I have an affinity for veterans and first responders. Uh, a connection that, well, you can understand the connection that we have, so, yeah.

Yeah. That's who I am. Yeah, it's just, it's like talking to wherever you travel in the world. You have that common, common thread and can strike up a conversation and you're like, instant friends. As a first responder, it's an awesome experience to have that moon and I feel blessed to be able to do that. So it's.

Yeah. So before you, so you spent some time in the military and then got in law enforcement, and then we, uh, talked a little bit about, you know, some of your early struggles in in life. Do you wanna share those? Sure, absolutely. Um, so I've struggled with my mental health most of my life. Um, I didn't know I was struggling.

I just thought I was just a guy doing my thing, right? So, uh, but having said that, I grew up in an immigrant family. My parents immigrated from India.  and moved to Canada. Um, and I'm 44, so as you can imagine, I grew up in an area that wasn't, uh, too receptive to, uh, visible minorities when, when it first, uh, immigrated.

So, you know, you're experiencing various different things from that perspective. And yeah, my father was, um, new to that experience as well. So he, he was an engineer, um, you know, doing his thing and. So we grew up that way, uh, in the Toronto area actually. And, um, you know, grew up, my dad was fairly strict and he used to like to have a beverage or two from time to time.

And, um, he was, he believed in, um, discipline and uh, and, um, not that as a bad thing. And I appreciate the discipline that he rendered. However, it could have been rendered in a different manner. I. But having said that, , um, I don't hold any ill will towards anyone. Those are the experiences that, uh, I experienced and my father, um, you know, was the guy that did it.

So anyways, Yeah. But having said that, he was an awesome person. I still is an awesome person and is very supportive to this day, and I learned my, um, I guess my, my work ethic from. And, um, I think that's the only thing o one of my only saving graces is that I have a pretty, pretty epic work ethic that, uh, really can't be stopped.

Once I kind of keep moving in the direction, then I need to keep moving in. But having said that, um, so I, I, I, I have, uh, a high level of anxiety and depression and, um, I didn't really recognize it as a kid, so I. Fairly like, uh, not, I wouldn't say isolated, but I'm, I'm, you know, I'm like kind of a loner and individual.

Mm-hmm.  and do my own things and, um, Yeah, so that was an interesting experience growing up in Toronto. And then my dad, he, he ended up transferring to a, uh, a company in the States. Um, we, we ended up moving to Dallas, Texas, uh, when I was about 12. And um, so that was another culture shock for me. . Yeah. Going from Toronto to, uh, Dallas and Dallas, I lived in a place called, uh, Plano.

Plano was northeast of Dallas, about a half an hour, 45. And when I first moved there, it wasn't pleasant. , the first couple of years was pretty tough cause I was a fish outta water. And, um, you know, bullied to an extent that uh, most people probably shouldn't be bullied. And, uh, well I don't think anyone should be bullied having said that, but, uh, the degree to which I was was pretty trauma.

and, um, so through that, um, my dad didn't know. My parents really didn't know how to help and so they're like, Okay, well let's play sport. Do something man. Right?  . So, uh, I ended up joining the wrestling team in high school and um, that kind of helped out quite a bit and uh, made some friends there, had some pretty good experiences learned, um, some pretty additional epic work ethic from my wrestling.

My wrestling coach was a champ, man, Coach Webb. He was, uh, originally from, uh, Oklahoma. I think he went to Oklahoma State. He was originally from, uh, there and then he ended up, uh, moving to Dallas and, and, um, became an awesome wrestling coach. And, uh, Learned a lot from that guy cuz he was also a rodeo champ and he did a lot of like bull riding and whatnot and um, so yeah, as you can imagine, learned a lot of things from that guy.

I'm sure that's a whole foreign world for you in, in a lot of ways, . Yeah. Well, I mean, as I reflect back on my life now, um, you know, sometimes when people reflect or people don't reflect, but if they were to, they could see how every sort. Individual throughout their life has provided some sort of something to them.

Yeah, so over the last few years I've been doing that and I've been reflecting on everybody. And Coach Webb was an instrumental person in my life, so, um, I still remember him to this day and it's been 25 years. He passed away I think about four or five years ago. And, um, but yeah, so he, uh, he was in. I I on tangents too, bro.

So you have to like guide this direction. We're gonna go. You're good, You're good. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna direct you back a little bit to something on it. So you were talking about, you know, early in your childhood, you know, about anxiety and, and depression and stuff like that. Like, how did you discover that you had that?

Well, I didn't discover until, Officially discovered until about four years ago, Three, four years ago. And what, what kicked it off, and I suspect it probably kicked off for a lot of people. It was the pandemic. Mm-hmm. . And, um, and you know, obviously working in law enforcement for 18 years, things can get exasperated as it relates to your mental health, right?

Yeah. Yeah. . So I already had pre um, Preconditions. Mm-hmm. , you know, to kinda get exasperated and then working in the law enforcement field for that many years, um, it got worse, but I think I was really good at masking things and I ended up putting quite a severe wall up where, um, you really can penetrate it.

Then my emotions were all locked in. And, um, I was that guy, you know, you could say was somewhat intimidating walking around the workplace, you know, not outwardly saying things, but just, you know, with that presence. Right? Yeah. And, um, you know, I was that guy. If, you know, someone was gonna be a bit rowdy, they'd call on me and I'd, I'd help out.

Right.  where we, you know, So, um, and you know, from time to time, um, I would never have any negative outbursts really. But, um, I was containing all the outbursts mm-hmm.  and all the, um, anxiety and, and responses in the workplace too. So eventually got to a place where my cup. Overflowed man. And, and, and it got to the point where, you know, I was also dealing with a separation divorce while I was, The pandemic was happening.

Yeah. It was like a confluence of things happening all at the same time. It was just like, holy moly, man, I, I just couldn't, um, I couldn't cope with it all at the same time. It was just too much for me because during the pandemic, I, I'm not sure how it was in, in your area, but here in Vancouver at the very beginning, it was pretty rough, man.

They'd locked down a lot of things and. For me, as you can imagine, I'm super active, right? And I left and I was doing jiujitsu. Like all the time. And yeah. And for me, Jujitsu was an outlet for connecting with people and, uh, my friends. And once that kind of was taken away mid through the pandemic, um, I took another deep dive into depression because now wait a second.

Holy mo, I can't talk to anyone. What?  Yeah. Yeah. I can't connect with anybody. Okay, That's cool. So now we're sitting, uh, you know, in your own place and, and, um, you can't go. Right. And, uh, at that time in my workplace, we were doing something where we were trying, like, it was not the beginning of the pandemic, so we really didn't have any understanding Sure.

Anything. So we were doing all kinds of crazy things where like, you know, and not crazy, but just being. Safe. Yeah. With the information that we had. Right. And, um, we would be do, we did a rotation at work where, you know, we didn't want to have everyone in the workplace cuz what if someone were to get sick and then that would take out a whole line and yeah.

So we ended up doing a rotation where it would be like on work shift for like two weeks and then we'd be working from home for a couple weeks. That kind of sort of balance. But, um, those two weeks working from home, were a killer man cuz we couldn't go.  and I was divorced or going through a separation and child, you know, dealing with like, um, ch not even childcare, but like custody stuff and worried about all these different things and, and, um, yeah, it was a, it was a rough go man.

I know. It was, it was pretty tough. So the anxiety and depression took, uh, it took a major, major hit. Like I, I hit some really dark spots where, Um, I had to get medicated. I, I ended up having a major depressive episode because everything was a bit too much for me. And, and for me, that was a huge shock for my entire life.

I was the guy that was able to handle everything, you know? Yeah. And I, I could, I could bear the burden of quite a bit, quite a bit. And sure when I started like unraveling in that way, I was like, holy man. What's happening to me? Am I going crazy? Am I am Like I couldn't regulate my emotions either. My emotions were just so ird, like it was, I could cry or get angry or whatever at the drop of a hat.

Sure. Yeah. And for me that was extreme for me. That was extremely like unsettling. Um, cuz that was sole in control Most of my. So I, I was like, Man, I gotta, I gotta get squared away here, man. I, I , I gotta sort myself out. So I basically did everything I could possibly do to help myself. So like, I started seeing, uh, I went to a therapist, psychologist and I still see the same one for the last four or five years.

I see her regularly. Um, I ended up getting medicated with the doctor cause the doctor said, Okay, you, we need to kind of get you medicated to get you sort of, um, Stabilized some degree. Um, so I, I ended up, uh, being prescribed Cymbalta. Ssri. Yeah. And, um, what else did I start doing? I started, uh, just, and I was, I was forcing myself to stay active, so I would go out for a run.

Right. And ? No. Just to put things in perspective for you and your listeners, Man, I'm not a runner . I, I'm now, Yeah. But when I started I was 200 pounds, like maybe I'm 5 9 2. I was 5 9, 2 10 maybe sitting around 10% body fat. I was fairly believed. Oh. And, um, and it was a bigger guy and it was, you know, um, I was like, Okay, let's go Ryan and I, you know, mind you like, keep in mind, I, I wasn't you.

I was starting to read books and I wasn't a huge reader. And, and yeah, I wanted to start figuring out ways how I can kind of like get myself together. And I read, uh, Jocko Wills book, Extreme Ownership. Mm-hmm. . And I started taking a lot of ownership and things that I never did take ownership in my life with.

So once I started doing that, then I was able to start like really actioning a plan towards. Get myself squared away. So I ended up also buying, um, David Goggin's book Can't Hurt Me. And I read the first couple chapters of that book. I haven't finished it yet, but, and I bought it, Mind you, four years ago.

So , I read the first two chapters and as soon as I read those first two chapters, it really resonated with me based on some of his childhood experiences and mental. So, what did I do?  I hadn't ran in 25 years since high school. And I was like, All right, well, we're gonna start now. So I went out and, uh, went for a run and, um, slowly thereafter, I'm, I'm, I'm, like I was saying like I'm, uh, I'm an all in type of guy, so when I start doing something, I go all in.

So I, um, I ended up just scheduling myself to run a few times a week. Nothing crazy, you know, I was, I wasn't a runner, right? So, Yeah, And mind you, when I, I hadn't rans in high school and it was, I was the worst runner in my high school wrestling team. Like I was the last guy. Every single time we run Mile

So, um, so I, uh, I was like, Okay, shit, man. All right. I hate running. Let's just get it. Let's see what we can.  and I had been reading Jordan Peterson as well and, and various different podcasts at his. And the same sort of, um, thing kept coming up to me. It's like, um, just do what you normally would do, like what you like to do and go all in, see what happens.

I was kind of like just taking that mentality and. Hey everyone. Have you lost that loving feeling because life has you so stressed out and you're just being moms and dads now and just running around like crazy and the passion in your relationship is gone and you don't make it a priority anymore? Well, let me help you with that.

I offer a free 15 minute discovery call that you can book on the in during the badge website, or you can just reach out to me on anyone social media platforms. And I will get back to you as soon as possible. We're starting to take these influences in from these books and podcasts and starting to go all, all in all when, So yeah, I'm going all in here and I started running, uh, I scheduled myself to do three miles, three times a week.

So, uh, Monday, Wednesday, Friday would be 3.11 miles each of those days. And I would just slowly start and nothing impressive, you know, like 35, 40 minutes, just kind of getting it, getting it in. . And then through that process I continued and I kept driving, I kept setting goals and they would set goals on tops of goals.

And then, um, and then I really wanted to execute against, uh, a half marathon, but I, I wasn't like a guy who'd enter races or anything like that. Like I'm just, I would do all this all on my own. And so I was like, Okay, well I'm gonna run a half marathon today, so I just, Got up and ran 21 K, so that's, I guess 13 miles.

Mm-hmm. . And, uh, I did that within about two months of me starting the running. And mind you, it wasn't pretty right. , it was ugly. It, I did 13 miles and it took me two and a half hours and, um, I was wearing 10 year old pair of shoes. Like I didn't know what I was doing. Right. Yeah. But I did it and it got started right.

And as soon as I got started, I got the ball rolling. And then I started really starting thinking, Okay, well I just did this 21 K. Holy crap. I never thought I could ever do 21. Ever in my entire life, and that gave me something and no one forced me to do it. I did it all on my own. So it gave me some ownership, some sort of confidence, some self-esteem, some self-worth, right?

And I won. I felt good in that moment and I was like, Wait a second. That feels good. How do I maximize this? How do I compound that? How do I increase it even further? So I started to, and I kept training and I kept running and I, I started seeing small little improvements, and then I started going further.

And then, uh, in, in about 2021 and around February, I was like, Okay, now I'm running about six miles. A day now at this point. So six or seven days a week, I'm running six miles a day. Yeah, nice. So about 30 to 40 miles a week. And that was it within about five or six, maybe about eight months of me starting.

And then in February I was listening to Cameron Haynes on Joe Rogan's podcast. And um, for your listeners, if they don't already know, I'm sure they probably do, but George Oregon has a mass podcast and Cameron Hayes is an ultra endurance athlete who's a, uh, bull hunter and um, an amazing sort of athlete.

And, um, so he's in his fifties and I heard like Cameron Haynes and I heard him on the podcast talking about, you know, he's in his fifties and when he is training for an ultra endurance race, you know, a hundred mile or a 200 miler, that guy's running a marathon a day, which is uh, 26 miles a day. Right?

Yeah. And I was like, so that I got, and my ego is extremely massive. And at that time it was somewhat. And, um, I, you know, it was in my head, I was like, Forget that man. How can a 50 year old do that? I should be able to do that, blah, blah, blah. All this kind of garbage, right? And then I was like, Okay, screw it man.

I wanna figure out how to do that. So then I started trying to set a plan to do that. And then, um, , but for me, I, I couldn't fathom the, the idea of running 26 miles a day. So I just, what I did was I said, Okay, let me see how many kilometers or miles, whatever I can do in, in a week. So I scheduled myself like a 10 week program.

And so from week one I went from 11 kilometers. I'm gonna have to give you kilometers now cause I don't Good. So, um, on, on the beginning of my 10 week program, I started with 11 kilometers a day every single day, and every week I had added another kilometer on top of it. So every week would be an additional, so 11 K, 12 k, all the way up to 21 K.

So once I got to 21 K for the week, I did that for the entire week and I executed against it and I was working full time. I had, uh, my daughter I was still trying to manage, uh, was divorced and dealing with like all the garbage I was dealing with during that time. And, um, what was the other thing that I was dealing with?

Uh, and I ran 21 k all in the same, like, all like, so it wasn't like, um, I had time to do it, right? Yeah. Like I made the time to execute against something. And after I did that, then it was a. Then I really knew what I could possibly, what I could do, because that was more of a mental push for me. It was more of like a mental grind.

Can I mentally do this? Yeah. Cause it was extremely difficult. And ex man, if I could tell you if like it was hard man, like all the stuff that I was dealing with all at the same time. And to be able to do that, man, it really did give me something. And when I, when I did that, Um, and again, it wasn't pretty, it was ugly.

I would get up in the morning like four in the morning to crank out a run, start my shift, and then maybe do it again later or whatever. Right. I was just trying to get the mileage in. Yeah. And um, as soon as I did that , I was like, boom, I can run across Canada Now, uh, for those of you who, um, For, for your listeners.

Um, I, I suspect you may not have any Canadian ones, so that's why I'm gonna really share something that might impact some of your listeners and I hope that maybe some of your listeners can maybe look up this person. There's a man named, uh, Terry Fox, and he's a Canadian icon and uh, he was alive about, uh, 40 years ago.

He was 22 at the time, in and around that age, and he had. Okay. And he was from my area. He was originally from the Vancouver area and, uh, he had cancer and he survived it, but he also had his leg amputated. So he had a leg amputated it, um, to get the cancer, um, get rid of it. And through his recovery, he saw a lot of gaps in the system and he wanted to do something.

And he wanted to help as many people as possible. So what he did was he came up with a concept called the Marathon of Hope. And his goal was to have every one, every single Canadian at the time donate $1 to the cause to cancer research. Now no one. And now he's a, a guy with one leg, and he was like, I'm gonna run across Canada.

So what he did in 1980, April 12th, 1980, he kicked off in Newfoundland, St. John's.  on the other side of Canada, like way the fucking other end man on the coast, and he attempted to run 7,300 kilometers a marathon a day. So he ended up running a marathon a day until he got to halfway across Canada and his cancer came back and he knew his cancer was coming back, but he didn't wanna stop because he was on a mission to raise enough money to help people.

He ended up dying from his cancer cuz it came back and he was running the whole time. Since his death, he's raised $1 billion for cancer research. Wow. Since his death. Yeah. Now he's one of my heroes. Right. And if anyone were to see this guy trying to run on a prosthetic leg 40 years ago, Right. You can imagine the prosthetics back then were not what they are.

Sure. And he was in constant pain for 10 hours a day trying to do something for other people and trying to impact the country. So what he's done has inspired millions of people to continue to raise money for cancer research. My goal is to do the exact same thing for mental health for first responders and veterans in Canada.

So I'm training, I'm leaving my job, I'm training full time. Right. Wow. To break the record for the fastest run across Canada and the fastest run across Canada, that's 7,300 kilometers. The current record is 67 days, 10 hours. My goal is to do it in 66 days. Now you can do the math on that. That's over a hundred kilometers a day for 66 days running every single day.

Yeah, so my goal is to affect permanent positive. To affect permanent positive change. I have to execute against this. And what that means to me is when I'm dead 50 years from now, there needs to be money, keep going, keep generating. Cause from my experience and my, like I, I live here in Canada and um, I think, uh, first responders and veterans don't nearly get the support and love clearly as much as, um, you guys in the US and the way you guys do it.

You guys do it. , I think you guys do it on a way better scale. Um, it can obviously improve, but you do it much better than us. And I would love to be able to have a small part in trying to change the, the mentality of Canadians also here in Canada by trying to do something that, um, you know, look, we do things for everyone else.

No one does shit for us, right? Yes. Reality. Right? And, um, you know, I know what the statistics are for the US it's 22 veterans a day, kill the. Right, Right. And just thinking about that, um, pisses me off, right? It's a pretty big ripple effect. Massive man. And that's not even counting first responders. Now. Now let's tag in first responders into that.

How many more people have taken their own lives? Now let's tag in North America into that. How many veterans and first responders both in can and the US commit, are committing suicide, not be. Based all on mental health. It's not the shootings, it's not the other things. You know, those are things that we kind of understand that that's the nature of the beast, right?

Um, uh, it's the, we understand that, you know, there's risk inherent in that, right? The risk that we're not really. Too privy to before we start our careers is the, the, the damage that's caused by, let's say organizations damage that's caused by maybe some colleagues damage that's maybe done by some management.

So those are other elements that cause major damage and I think, um, You know, I think it's important to get the support of the public. Cuz if we can't even get the support of the public man, we're fucked . Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, uh, I'm doing whatever I can, I'm not anyone special other than a guy who, who, who, um, has a couple skill sets that I, I'm, I'm gearing towards maximizing and um, I know I will execute against it.

Cuz over the last two years I have executed against every single thing that I've said. And if. Executed against, I've actually surpassed it. On November 7th, 2021, I trained myself to run 100 kilometers and I ran from a town called Chill Tono to the Vancouver airport. That's 100 kilometers. And I trained myself to do that, and I did that in 14 hours and 58 minutes, and I raised $21,000 for veterans and first responders with PTSD issues that went directly to support those.

So really when I did that, man, it changed my perspective on everything and what I wanted to do. So then I started thinking, how can I do more of that? So what I did for this year is I planned to do eight ultra marathons, and I started doing them in March, and I went March all the way. My last one is, um, in November before Veterans Day.

Um, and we have a similar day called Remembrance Day here, and I'm, I'm doing it in honor of, uh, of that. And, and last year, that's the event I did, I call it run to remember. And, um, I ran to remember people and I raised $21,000. And so this year I, my goal was to raise 30,000 and 30,000 for this charity that we have locally here called Honor House.

And Honor House is a charity that has one employee and everything else is done by volunteers. And what they do is they support all veterans, all first responders, um, American as well. So for example, when we've had Americans come up here and they've been in some sort of trauma, we take care of. It doesn't even matter.

Free charge. We don't give shit. As long as you're a first responder or veteran, then you're gonna get sorted out. So, um, so this year my goal is to raise 30,000 for them. I'm, I'm about $7,000 raised now, but I haven't even started. I got, uh, some news media coming out pretty soon here and a few other things that are gonna be happening that are gonna really blow things up.

So, um, Pull things up, , pun intended, explode. But, uh, but honor house, what they do, I'm raising this money to help build a ranch. And their ranch, their building is about four and a half hours away from here. And the ranch that they're building will have 10 cabins. Actually, they've already built the 10 cabins, but, um, it's gonna to support all new cutting edge treatment, equine therapy, the whole nine.

Yeah. And um, when members apply, they can go there free of charge, stay in the cabins with their family members as well, so they don't have to be alone. And, um, so that money I'm raising this year is gonna go straight to them. And again, next year. So next year, again, I do the same thing and I'll, I'll, I'll do a bunch of ultra marathons, raise the money and, and donate that to the charity.

And the reason why I'm doing that, obviously, Because that's what I'm supposed to do, and that's what I wanna do, but also to help myself to, uh, train. Cause for me, the record, for me to break the record, I gotta train my ass, man. I gotta train every single day. I gotta, I gotta be, like, I had, I was running normal kilometers two years ago, and now I can run about 50 to 60 a day.

Like a day, like anything is possible, given enough time, given enough grit, given enough discipline, you could do anything. So now I start thinking, Okay, let me go all in. Let me break this record. Let me raise a ton of money. And, um, it's now, it's just an adventure of, of like what's limited limiting me is just my imagination.

Because now I've got a YouTube channel. We're gonna be starting, we're filming a documentary to track me running across Canada that we're gonna see if we can get that on Netflix. Like we're doing all the things to make sure that we can maximize this for as many people as possible, and, um, help as many people as possible.

And, um, yeah, that's really my life's purpose at this point. Like, I don't give a shit about anything else. All I'm doing is training and raising awareness, raising money for people that. And, uh, if, if, if that makes me feel good, and if that gives me a life that makes me happy, then fuck yeah. I'm all for it.

Everything else can go pound sand, personally. . So, so you're talking about some skills that you have to execute things. So do you mind sharing, like what, what are a couple of skills that you, that you have that help you execute these goals? Okay. The fundamental thing that I have is, Um, and that's the only thing that's really gotten me started and helped me stay the course.

I have all kinds of ambition. I have all kinds of goals, but none of those mean anything if I'm not disciplined enough to execute against them. So I think fundamentally for me, I have discipline, but I haven't always had dis discipline. I was the, I was the, I was a messed up kid, man. I used to drink a lot.

I used to party like all my twenties. Uh, I. At least 10 to 15 times black out drunk, right? Like, I mean, yeah. You know, all kinds of craziness, right? So it's not like, um, I was born to do, um, I was born and had these skill sets. I had to develop 'em over a period of time, but I wanted to develop them. So I had the intention behind developing the skill sets.

And so I just did that over a period of time. Look, Rome wasn't built in a day, right? Yeah. It takes, it takes years to develop anything. So really, I'm on a 10 year project, bro. , I'm only two years in. Yeah. For me to execute everything, it's gonna take me 10 years at least. But I'm disciplined, I'm patient. And so, to answer your question, the discipline wasn't very important.

Um, seeking out mentors. Extremely important. Yeah. Especially in my case, and I'll explain what I mean by that. I didn't know how to really start doing what I was doing like, Like on a strategic way. Right, right, right. Like working out and all that kinda stuff. I could do it, right. Yeah. But now from a strategic place, how do you execute against getting the entire country knowing who you.

That's a whole new beast, bro. Right, Right. So now, and not to know who I am, but to know about what we're trying to do. Sure. To get this message out there. So, um, last November, I ran that a hundred K and raised that money, but I was still in the dark spot, man. I was lost as heck. I didn't know, Uh, I was stuck.

I was stuck. And I, I didn't know how to proceed forward. And, um, fortunately for me, I. Let me think how to say this. Um, fortunately for me, fundamentally I'm a good person and I ran that a hundred k and raised money for other people not even thinking about myself. And that got some attention of, uh, well, a couple pretty special people.

And so I, I ended up engaging with someone who connected with me through, so through social media and uh, through I. And, um,

that person pretty much saved my life, to be honest. Um, I was in a dark spot still after I ran and I connected with this guy and he, he lives about 10 hours from me, still in, in the province, still living in Canada, but, um, about 10 hour drive. He's a Caucasian fellow, right? He's, he's a retired, uh, military veteran.

Um, he's about, Right. And, um, so he connected with me. I was like, Why is this guy connected with me? Anyways, long story short, he's a retired tier one operator and, um, he, he, um, so Kia has something called JTF two, and JTF two is the equivalent to Navy Seals and, um, same training, same whole night. Like all the same stuff.

Yeah. Tier one operator. And so this gentleman. Um, in the Canadian military sort of phrase, uh, terminology is a plan holder. And a plan holder is one of the members, the first members ever selected to be on the teams when it was created. So he was one of the first people on the tier one team when it was created here.

Uh, he retired as a warrant. And highly trained . Yeah. Master sniper, Airborne, the whole, like all the things he was ago. Yeah. And um, so like, to put it in real perspective for your listeners, it be like having Jocko willing on speed dial. Same thing. Yeah. So he became my mentor and I, I, I, I. He saved my life.

He would call me every single day, or I would call him, we would zoom, call each other for two or three hours every single day for two months. Cause that wasn't a bad spot. And he was just trying to talk to me and help me out. And through that process, um, he performance coached me out of the dark spot, right?

And he then helped me realize what my true purpose is. And he helped me realize what a meaningful life. And how to enrich one's life. And, um, I learned a lot of things in that time and I continued to still learn a lot of things about how to do life better. Yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah. And not to do it a good way, Right?

Yeah. And, and to, to enrich your life with experiences rather than, And, um, if you're reaching, enriching your life through experiences and not things, things will come eventually if you want them to, if you want them to. Sure. So the, so the outcome is determined by myself. Now I wanna do what I wanna do. I wanna be happy, I want to help other people.

And if something positive happens for me, cool. If it doesn't, that's still cool cause I'm doing what I love right now, right? So for me, I established how much money I need to. I don't need a lot of money. If I make 50 grand a year and I could do exactly what I'm doing right now, then we're good. So that's, I established that fact as well.

So for me to be able to do what I'm doing and, and change directions entirely, if I had to figure out how to make that work, and I figured that out with the help of some pretty amazing. And the team is starting to grow even more now, and it's super exciting for me, man, cuz um, I never thought I'd be on a podcast in Salt Lake City,

Yeah. I never, I never thought I'd be sharing some stories with some amazing people. I'm flying to, uh, Toronto on Friday and Toronto's, um, just north of New York City. It's about a five hour flight from where I'm at. And I'm going there to run in the Toronto Waterfront Marathon, and it's the largest marathon in, in Toronto area with about 5,000 athletes competing.

And I'm not going there to compete. I'm going there to pace someone who isn't an avid runner. And I met them through social media and I thought, You know what? Fuck it man. Let's go and help somebody out and have some fun. And now it's turned into something else entirely. Um, a bunch of people found out I was coming.

They've registered to run in the marathon just to do it. Yeah. Um, a few other people have registered to run the 5k part of the marathon just to do it. Um, on Friday I'm flying out there and there's some people from the Toronto Police Service wanted to connect, so they've got a bunch of officers coming out and meeting me at the waterfront and go for a small little 5K one, like a fun, like a fine line type of thing and share the story.

And, um, yeah man, it's just really humbling that people even wanna listen to what I gotta say at this point in the game. And, and. . But what's really awesome is that people are supporting what's actually happening. Yeah. And they wanna see something like this happen because I mean, it doesn't happen for us.

Right, Right. I got, I got a question for you. Yeah, man. So what are you thinking about when you're running? Because I, I've been a runner in the past, and I, and I've started running a little bit last year and. Had some injuries. Right. And then trying to get back to, to running again. It's one of those things that you're, it's a love, love hate relationship.

Mm-hmm. . Cause it's, uh, I feel finding lifting weights is a lot easier. Right. It's a lot easier mentally. Right. It's just few just do some reps, right. Yeah. Like get, get through this. I get it. You know, it's only like, you know, generally it's, you know, my arms or my chest or whatever that I'm working out type of thing.

But you know, they talk about like the runner's high when you run, or just like, I mean, like what, Like what's going through your mind for you when you're, when you're run? That's a good question. It's a good question, man. Um,

it's, I don't know how to answer that. Um, Because it, it can be different various times too, right? Yeah. And it depends on my energy levels and whatnot. But let, let's, let's maybe get to that first point, like, just getting started, right? Or, or, um, the easier part is to lift, right? So for me, I know how I function for me, and I know my ego is a piece that I can play with, right?

So now for people, they need to understand who they are. And understand how they get motivated and how they can inspire themselves. Now, most of my life, I've done it for the most part on my own, like physically. So I've had to use my ego as a tool to get me going. Yeah. Now how do I, how do I, how do I explain that?

Um, so what I mean by that is when I first started, and now bear with me, I'm gonna reenact how I thought a couple years ago. So this is not really how I am now. So if someone was doing something and I, it affected me and it hurt my ego, I'd be like, Fuck that. I can do it. I'm pissed now. And then I'll integrate that and try to do it.

That make sense? Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. I'm explaining it on a very basic level, but that's kind of how I use my ego because it's like my ego. I was very inflated for most of my life to protect.  and I, I acted in a manner that I shouldn't have been acting based on protection, right? Mm-hmm. . So now I've recognized that's what I was doing, but now my confidence is so much better.

I feel so much better about who I am as an individual. I know I'm a good person. I know all these things. So now I don't need to have my ego functioning in that manner. I can reintegrate my ego into my, my system, who I am as an individual, and now I can use it as a.  and I can, I can, um, turn it up or turn it down.

Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So the, so the, so for me, that's how I do it. So now when I'm thinking about, Fuck man, I gotta. I gotta go run, uh, 10 miles today. Well, how the, like what ? Yeah. But now, so let's say, but now I'm gonna use my ego if I'm, Cause I'm gonna be like, fuck that man. I'm like, Oh my back.

My glutes are hurting. Like right now as we speak. When I stand up right now, it takes me a second to fully straighten out. Cause my glu in Miami are tight. Right? Yeah. So it's, it's hard for me. Like it's not, it. If anyone else were feeling what I'm feeling right now and hadn't experienced the type of physical activity I've experienced, they wouldn't get up and go, This wouldn't.

Right. But I think now when I'm running, my purpose is greater than myself now, so I don't have the choice. Yeah. To sit on my ass. My purpose is you. Yeah. So if I don't fucking go for a run, then I'm letting you down, man. And my purpose is everyone else, not me. So if my purpose is greater than myself, then I can do anything.

I can sacrifice myself, I can run across can and have my body fall apart. I can do it right because that's essentially what's gonna happen. Running 7,300 kilometers and 66 days, my body will fall apart, I'll lose, and that's what I'm counting on. Cuz most endurance athletes aren't, don't have the muscle capacity as.

Yeah, so I'm counting on the fact that I'm gonna shrink and I'm gonna eat up a bunch of that muscle and still survive the run because I'm not an ultra endurance guy. The guy who has the record, he's been an ultra endurance guy his entire life. He's like 45. He's been doing these for 35 years, been doing marathon a hundred mile, like all the things.

Yeah, I just started two, I just started running two years ago. . Yeah, I'm just, and and, and I was on a podcast recently saying this and I was like, Look, I'm just an athlete trying to see what's. I'm just a guy now. Like I, okay, and I frame it so differently now. I'm not in law enforcement. My head now, I'm an athlete.

I'm an elite athlete now, so I'm not even a dog handler, I'm not a law enforcement. Like, so anyone asks me a question, I frame it like that. So I am that now everything is that. So when people ask me questions like, um, that are, it'd be like asking, um, LeBron James. Hey bro. Is it hard to dunk sometimes? How's it feel?

Yeah, because I'm so far ahead now, or at least I'm trying to get myself so far ahead that it's all about the nuance of everything now. Yeah. All the small little pieces coming in. Right, Right. Twisting this and tweaking this and I, You gotta eat this. I gotta have this electrolyte. I real small tweaks.

Right. But yeah. I hope I answered your question, man. Yeah, no, you're good. You're good. Do you, do you like, write down your goals and get very specific with 'em and, and like, do you read 'em often or how do you, how do you like manage your goals? Absolutely. Cause this is, my goal is a huge event. My goals, I. I vocalized them immediately as I, soon as I set them, so that I can use my ego to help me keep moving.

So I'll let people know what my goal is so that it holds me accountable, because my ego won't let, let me quit. It's just how I work. So I tell everyone we're after that, boom, I'm running across Canada. I can't, I don't even know if I can, bro. Like honestly, I don't know , but I'm gonna make myself move. We're gonna figure it out,

Yeah. Yeah. And, and to be honest, I don't know if I can break the record, but here's the, I couldn't run 50 K a day, two years ago. I can, So what can I do given two more years? What can I do? Right. That's, that's the, that's the goal. So now I'm like, what can I do? I'm all in. Okay. So, uh, your question was how do you, how do you set your goals and, Well, I set goals to the extreme.

My goals are, Astronomical that they didn't start off that way. I had to start small. Right? Yeah. It's all about building my confidence. So it's taken me three, four years to get to where I'm at now. Four years ago, my goal would've been like, I just wanna get this 5K done without feeling pain. Yeah. So whatever the goal is, I would just set it and then I would always recalibrate it to another one.

I would never settle at a. I'm always recalibrating that goal. Recalibrate. Recalibrate. So my friend Sean Taylor, my mentor, tier one operator friend, he likes to say, uh, recalibrate your suck meter . So whatever you suck at, recalibrate it. So for example, what I did was I hadn't ever run 21 k right? Uh, a couple years ago, and I'm.

I'm gonna run 21 k and I, I just went, What did I do? I recalibrated my suckle. I recalibrated my baseline now. Now my baseline's always 21 k. I know what I can do. Let's recalibrate that again, take some time. And that's essentially what I'm doing. There's nothing really different. And I think a lot of people do that in their spheres of influence, but they don't do it in every sphere that they.

Yeah. I'm just trying to do it in every aspect of my life. So, um, that book, Atomic Habits, same idea, right? Mm-hmm. , mm-hmm. , just trying to be 1% better every single day. Yeah. Yep. I'm just trying to be a better version of myself, independent of everyone else. I don't care about anyone else. What can I do? I mean, that's not true.

I care about everyone else. Yeah, I know. Comparison, Comparison, Comparison. Yeah. All I care about is what can I do? How can I do it? And I can't control anyone else. Right. And this was like a real distinction for me to really understand this last year emotionally in the sense that I used to be very codependent on other people and as it related to my happiness and things like that.

And what I've learned, uh, really  this year and really the last couple.  is that I've been doing, I shouldn't be doing that. Um, I should be, I control everything. So as an individual myself, I control my emotions. I control out how I react. No one else does that for me. So right how I make the analogy to understand that better is my daughter.

My daughter cannot make me happy. My daughter cannot make me sad. I control that. Right now, I can be impacted by her if she's unhappy. I don't have to take on that emotion. I can be objective and detach in the moment and try to understand her and her feelings or whatever they are. But that doesn't mean I will be sad if she's sad or unhappy.

I'm independent of her. Yeah, right. And that was a massive distinction I needed to make. And with her, and then also with family members, parents, all these people.  and cuz most of my life and most of the people's lives around me, they've all been the, I've never really noticed anyone functioning in that manner where they've controlled themselves.

Yeah. And I, I'm just on a path to try to do that better too. Right. That's, I'm not perfect by any. Amen. Amen. . I'm just, I'm not perfect by any means, man. I fuck up every day, like, yeah, see, just like that. I try to use words better too, right? Yeah. So I make errors from time. But, um, I always try to correct that behavior.

I always try to be cognizant of what I'm doing, even when I do mess up. But now what I don't do is beat myself up anymore. I used to beat myself up all the time, but now through the help of my friend Sean, little bit of guidance, a little bit of, you know, maybe suggestions. It's like, Hey man, look, there's no need to beat yourself up.

Just think about what happened and how you could have done that better and then proceed. That's it. There's no need to get emotional over. Even if that's a good thing that happened. So I had some pretty good news over the last few days, like as it relates to the stuff that I'm doing, but I'm not, I'm, a year ago I would've been like, Stew.

Oh, that's amazing. I'd still be talking about it, right? Yeah. But now I'm like, Okay. That's awesome. Cool. Okay. Now onto the next thing. Let's keep moving. Yeah. Just so I'm learning how to do that kind of stuff better and, um, it's, it's helped . Yeah. Yeah, for sure. That's awesome. Yeah. So how can people follow you along your, your journey and support you?

Um, I would love if anyone is willing to support me, for sure. You can go to my website, it is www.suchinmotion.ca not.com ca . Um, yeah, so, and uh, I have an Instagram account as. Um, at sat dot n dot motion and my YouTube channel is up now again, sat in motion and I'll be uploading stuff more regularly on the YouTube.

I've started start uploading stuff now, but uh, over the, I have a goal for that as well, . So my goal for the YouTube channel is to hopefully have fi in about five or six years, about a million subscribers. And I'm pretty confident that'll happen based on all the work that I'm doing and, and outreach and, and connection with people.

Like, I, I plan on coming to the States too next year just to, I used to live in Dallas. I went to high school there, man. I wanna go visit some of my friends and, um, uh, go to California. I met, I've connected with some people there. Shoot, man, I'd come to Salt Lake and connect with you, man. Like, uh, I'm just all about tr like now I just want to travel and meet as many people as possible and connect with as many people cuz what I've learned through that process.

Um, I've learned a lot by doing that and seeing other people's perspectives. Like now that I'm venturing out of myself a lot more, I'm not in my head all the time, which is really. A lot of my dysfunction was started from there. As soon as I start engaging more often, even when I don't want to, like, I'm not a social person, but I, I force myself to go out.

I force myself to meet with people. I force myself to have coffees, and, and I'm thankful that I have done that because man, the shit that I've learned from all kinds of people this last year, like people that are younger than me, Like, I mean like 20 year olds like, just cause I, I'm trying to put my ego away, right?

And just listen to people and see what they, what they have to offer. And just about everyone has something. And if they don't, maybe I could still have a conversation with them. And through that conversation then something can develop as well. So open mind, man. That's where I'm at. . Yeah. Well, I mean, you have a lot to, you have a lot to offer people as well.

I mean, the, the strength and motivation and, and what you've come through is, Definitely Right. It's a story that's worth sharing to help others. Yeah. We so often as first responders, no matter how many stories, honestly, we feel like we hear, sometimes we still feel alone and that we can't relate to what other people have gone through, but we gotta give ourselves some, some grace and there.

A lot of, a lot of first responders that have gone through so much, you know, that are can, you can connect with and, you know, up level your life, up level their life too. Man, I, I honestly, man, it's, that sounds so awesome that you're saying that, man. Cuz if I, if I've experienced anything or if I can continue to do anything that I'm doing over the next couple years, and if I can speak to anybody.

Um, from my experience and if my experience can help anyone, man, I then my life is, uh, my life's a blessing. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. Are you gonna pick up some runners along the way? Yeah, man. Well, here's the plan for the Oh, across Canada. Look, man, uh, who knows? I honestly, I, I don't even know what that's gonna look like.

That can look, I want that to be just huge. I want that to be just massive, as many people as they wanna join. I don't care, man. Like I want, It's not about me. I'm just like maybe the, the catalyst hopefully to kind of start the movement. There's a lot of other people here in Canada I know for sure that I know that I'm connected with across the country, both veterans and first responders that are highly influential, that are also on the same team as me.

And we're all working together as a collective and, uh, which is what we call ourselves. We're the collective. We, we we're a group of people that are just trying to do the best we can with the skillsets that we have. And if we can inspire and motivate and, um, share, then that's what. Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking forward to, to it progressing and who knows, maybe I'll be retired by then and I can run a leg with you up in Canada.

Well, hey man, um, you say that and then I'm gonna, I'm gonna make that happen. I know. , I'll send you a ticket. Fly you up here, man. Uh, yeah, that I would, I see myself, I need to have put my goals out there a little more and, and, and make them happen. There's some pretty amazing guests like yourselves doing, doing things and uh, you know, all of our lives are kind of a, are messy a little bit and trying to find the time to, to do things and you, you just gotta get 'em on the calendar and, uh, right hope and pray that everything lines up to do it.

Well. Here's the thing, man. Um, I come on some podcasts from time to time, and I, I, when I say these things, I'm pretty, I'm extremely genuine. If you ever need a friend to talk to, man, I'm always around. You can always fire me a message or, or gimme a shout. I'm, I'm, this is, this is who I am, this is my life now for the next whatever it is.

So I'm always here for anybody. And that goes for anyone listening to this. Um, anyone who's listening to this, always wanna say thank you. Listening to anything that I have to say. I'm just, uh, I'm, I'm just one of you guys, right? Like we're all the same here. And, um, I'm just thankful that you guys have given me the opportunity to share my story and, and talk about what I'm trying to do.

I appreciate you. That's it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Thank you so much for being on today. It's been an honor to have you on and, uh, you know, it's, and it's motivational for me too, to, to see what you're doing and to see where you're going and to follow that journey as well, and hopefully be a part of it. You, Well, you know what, man?

Everyone, anyone who wants to be a part of it, can be a part of it. I don't control anything. This, This belongs to everyone. If everyone, if anyone, if everyone's to be part of it, then everyone's a part of it. Yeah. Very cool. Awesome. Thanks, Kach. I appreciate you, man. Thank you so much. Yeah. Thank you for listening, and please remember to reach out to me if you're struggling with your mindset, your marriage, or any aspects of mental health.

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