Reclaiming Health and Purpose: Eric Reynolds on Keto, Campgrounds, and First Responder Wellness

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My very special guest today is Eric Reynolds, also known as Keto 5-0.

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How you doing, eric.

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All right man, Thanks for having me.

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Yeah Well, I mean, people are going to wonder straight up what's Keto 5-0.

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Let's start there.

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Well, it's a long journey but at one point I discovered a ketogenic way of eating.

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I ended up losing 80 pounds through ketogenic and also a carnivore way of eating just nice and basic.

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Through ketogenic and also a carnivore way of eating, just, you know, nice and basic Meat and vegetables got off the processed foods and ended up losing 80 pounds in about a year and a half and I ended up helping my heart disease, curing a lot of the other issues I had with my metabolic disease.

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You know, when you're 250 pounds at six foot tall, I should have been around 190, 200, but now I'm at 180.

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I've, you know, the Keto 5-0 started because I started helping cops at work.

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Hey, you know, are you sick?

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Are you dying to something?

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I go, no man.

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I'm down to 33 inch waist because of this way of eating and taking care of myself.

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So I started helping cops and I just got the nickname Keto 5-0, you know.

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And then it just ran with it.

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And then I went to school and and just started a nutrition business for coaching you know, guys, and it's, that's how it started.

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You know, play off a hawaii 50, of course, yeah, yeah.

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Well, all the times in the hood they'd run from me you know.

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So it kind of fit.

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It made sense.

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So I was like, ah, that's cool.

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So why?

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why did you go with the keto way there's?

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Why was that particular to you like?

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Why was your interest there?

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I was 40 since 48 years old, already been diagnosed with heart disease.

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They were trying to push stents on me and they're trying to push statins and all this stuff, you know, make me a patient for life.

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And one day I learned to South Florida.

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All those dead bodies I had to investigate and flip over.

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A lot of them were so bogged down with medication and pills I always kind of stayed away from that way of thinking that pill isn't going to save my life.

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There is no magic pill.

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So, a friend of mine, you know, I tried to do it the way we all do.

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Right, you try to work out, try to cut back the booze, I'll, you know, eat some chicken instead of red meat.

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And the next thing, you know, I kept getting fatter and fatter, doing it their way, and sicker and sicker, you know, and overall, mentally, I got more depressed.

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And you know, with some of the stuff that happened in my career, it was just a perfect recipe for me to, you know, go down a dark way, you know, or a dark path.

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But playing basketball with a buddy of mine, I always stayed pretty active.

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He had lost 50 pounds and he said something about this keto and I thought it was some new CrossFit training that I was going to hate.

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I just thought this is going to be the worst, you know.

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And he goes nah, it's about burning fat for fuel.

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And I was like what are you talking about?

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I had no idea I could write a search warrant, I could go arrest somebody and write a probable cause affidavit, but I didn't know my blood work, I didn't know really what I was putting in my mouth.

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And that's when it started, within like three weeks to I was like man, at this rate I'll be freaking 180 jacked, you know.

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But of course over time your body adapts.

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You lose inches, not always pounds, you know you start building more muscle and you know my path.

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I started getting more motivated by it and I started thinking clear and I was like you know what I really like this route I'm going.

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And then obviously people pick your brain and you start talking about it.

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You know it's like people that love talking about guns and it doesn't take long for you to figure it out, Right.

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So I was like that with keto.

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I'm like dude, do you know how toxic Coca-Cola?

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is and I'm like, oh God, here we go.

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Yeah, people would walk by in an apartment by the evidence area, cause I was right there, you had to pass me, and they'd be hiding their Dr pepper or their mcdonald's bags.

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I'm just like you know.

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I just look at them, you know.

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But yeah, so it was a good path, you know, and saved my life yeah, I mean, everybody's gotta make their choices right and and live with them and maybe at some point those choices get them to a point right where they're like you, like I've got to do something.

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I gotta change change to what I'm doing, because what I'm doing is not healthy.

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Yeah, I mean I, I battled my cardiologist, you know, and I knew what I was talking about when I went in there.

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Unfortunately, most of us go into these doctor's offices and we don't know.

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We're just going to push, we're going to give them all of our health.

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Here you go, you make the decision, you know and I'm like come on, man, you know it's not your individual doctor, it's not his fault that who owns the medical you know, schools and also the businesses is all pharma connected.

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They want you on pills you know, and that's just the way they're being taught, unfortunately.

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I mean, and that's why I discovered, you know, it's a big organized crime.

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I mean, big food was owned by big tobacco.

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Well, what did big tobacco do?

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They got doctors saying it was okay to smoke.

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It's a great way to you know, and meanwhile it's giving you heart attacks.

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I mean, it's just such a big money-making scam and once my eyes were open, you can't go back.

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You're like, wow, and now they're doing this to children, they're doing it to our military.

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I mean, all these food programs, donations to Haiti or whoever needs help.

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They're sending them pure metabolic disease garbage.

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That's what they're sending.

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But that's another that's another tirade.

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I can get into.

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We start helping people.

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What?

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What's the benefit to your brain with doing keto?

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Well, obviously one of the things people don't understand is you have a direct link between your stomach and your brain.

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So if your stomach's all jacked up because it's not acting right, because maybe you're not eating the right, proper foods, it's going to make you a little bit less aware.

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You're going to be slower, you're going to be cloudy, you're going to be grumpy, you know, you're just going to be feeling lethargic a lot because your body's not operating in the proper way.

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We're not supposed to eat every two hours.

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That's idiotic.

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What carnivore, keto-vore, herbivore animal does that?

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We're not cows grazing all day long, all right.

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We aren't supposed to eat every two minutes.

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Your digestive system does not need to be working all day long.

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It's designed to eat, process it like a lion.

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You kill a doe, you eat that thing and you chill, digest that bad boy.

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Now you're ready to go for a couple of days.

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I mean, a lot of the clients I work with that are cops.

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I have them fasting on duty If they got a 10, 12 hour shift.

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You're not eating a meal, but you're going to have coffee and broth and some heavy cream and even a little stevia, if you need to keep that a little bit sweet, cause we're all hooked on the Dunkin' Donuts stuff.

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I mean, it happened right, it's indoctrination.

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But this way these guys are paying attention, they're alert, they're focused, they're energized and then at the end their shift they go hit a diner and they're eating bacon and eggs and, you know, pork chops, and then they're satisfied man, it's just a better way.

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And I had several guys saying, man, this is the best way to go and they're trying to spread the word.

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But you know, it's just.

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I think we overestimate how valuable our health is.

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And how many guys do you look at your academy picture and you look at when you retire?

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Oh, that's when I was jacked, I was ripped.

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Family.

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No, you've ate yourself into this situation, unfortunately, and you medicated yourself in this way, whether it's through, you know, blood pressure, prediabetes medicine, statins and all that stuff.

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Unfortunately, we have really taken that approach and we just let them do it to us.

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You know, unfortunately, you know.

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I mean there's.

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I didn't know it either.

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I was like I said 250 pounds.

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They wanted to put stents in me and I had a fellow officer that died of a heart attack after having stents put in and I just I knew there had to be a different way and the other ways before it wasn't working.

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And the minute, like I said, I just started feeding my body natural, real food.

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It doesn't have to be grass fed, but you don't want to be eating Taco Bell.

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You know meat.

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You know all those fast foods.

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They're a business.

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They're designed for profit, not for your health, and it's going to be cheap.

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Well, I can get, you know, eight burgers for freaking 99 cents.

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Hey, yeah.

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So you know, eating the way I do now, which is mostly animal based, it's not really that much difference in price.

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When you start adding up all the chips and the other crap people buy, from sodas to cigarettes, to you know you eliminate that.

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I can go get a nice ribeye you know, $12, $ 12 13, but that's my meal for the day, yeah, with some eggs and stuff like that.

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It's just a different way, you know yeah, I think that's true.

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You think you have to get over the mindset shift of like.

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Like you said, it seems like it's going to be a lot more expensive to eat this way.

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But you're right.

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If you do, cut out all those little things, you know you're right, you can have it, yeah, I can have whatever you want.

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At the end of the day, you haven't really spent any more money than you normally would spend.

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Yeah, I mean, unfortunately sugar is pretty evil.

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You know, I read a book called Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teicholz and man, you just see the dirty business behind it Hiding research, bribing scientists and you wonder why we've been having this hard epidemic for the last you know 70 years.

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We've tried animal, I mean we try plant-based.

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We think we've been eating the last 70 years is a plant-based diet.

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The meat's been fairly sprinkled in you know, you get your six ounces, there's your little burger.

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Son, keep eating those mashed potatoes and the bread.

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You know it's just over time.

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That's why we're so freaking sick across this country.

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We've just been fooled.

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You know, and I don't eat my first meal of the day, usually till 12 or one o'clock.

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You know people are like what I've already worked out.

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You know I've done some other things around our life.

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You're not going to starve to death.

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If you've ever watched these shows like Naked and Afraid, shout out to Gwen Grimes.

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You are not going to die.

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Okay, your body has fat reserves.

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It will feed off of that and you just supplement yourself with minerals.

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You know magnesium, potassium.

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You know, obviously, salt, sodium of some sort to keep yourself.

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You know the mineral intake and electrolytes on the right level.

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But yeah, it's, it's totally possible to do a crash wave, doing it like that.

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But I would suggest develop the good habits right now in eating, spreading it to your family, because that's one of the things that there seems to be some blowback If you try to tell a man's wife or a wife's husband that the food they're bringing into the house is making everyone sick.

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You know, take it personal.

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You know, and I get it.

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It's a, you know you don't want someone.

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You don't want me coming in your house looking through your pantry, right, right, I mean, what do you feel guilty about?

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Then you make that decision.

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Don't let me make it.

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You know, you know, come on.

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So yeah, it's been fun this nutrition way.

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I just wish I knew all this information when I was younger so I could have just taken better care of myself and the people around me, you know what I mean.

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So working out without eating, I mean that's generally been taught like that's kind of a right.

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I'm saying it's been taught this way.

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I'm not saying it is the right way to have like to not go work out, right, you're just burning up muscle by not having any, you know, food and protein and stuff in your system and you're actually you know.

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but the problem is we get in the cycle of eating processed foods and then you get hungry because you're not eating a nutritious meal and then you go stuff yourself and then like Chinese food, right, you're always hungry an hour later.

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It's because that's just garbage.

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That's why if it was a real steak or real like, even if you ate chicken wings and you ate 15 chicken wings, you're not going to be hungry in an hour, I mean.

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So yeah, sometimes you know, thinking you don't have to work out on an empty stomach, I thought that too.

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I thought I had to work out right afterwards too, like, oh, now I'm going to feed my body protein.

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You got enough in your system already, especially if you're a little heavy guys.

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You got it on there.

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Your body will use it and then eat later on.

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I mean, there's all kinds of windows.

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You got to find out what works for you.

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If you're staying up later, you know you're on a different shift.

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You know I eat at one and maybe six, and then I'm done.

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Sometimes I skip the six.

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If the one's like a ribeye with three eggs, I'm probably not going to eat dinner and it's crazy.

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I'll have coffee and some maybe bone broth or some collagen or something in there.

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I'm still hooked on coffee.

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I've been killing the coffee since I stopped the booze about almost 10 months in, and not that I was drinking and driving and sliding in the signs and stuff like that.

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It was my own battle I had over the years.

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It was a coping mechanism and even when I lost weight I was still drinking, but I wasn't getting bombed.

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It was just something to calm my central nervous system down.

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You know and obviously that's for me being in the shooting and then also you know, the whole career itself, just kind of being hypervigilant all the time so the alcohol would calm me down.

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In 2019 we sold our house, bought an rv, started full-time camping.

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Everywhere I went everyone's happy.

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Hey, we're camping.

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Hey, here's a beer.

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I mean, what do you think's gonna happen?

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we're on campus but then four years of camping.

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You're like man.

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I might have an alcohol problem so I drink the coffee.

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I try to make it, you know, as nutritious as I can.

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You know I use mold-free coffee now because I did have a diagnosis.

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I had really high mycotoxins in my system, along with heavy metals.

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So I was telling you earlier I'm going through a detox process and one of that is not to drink that BS coffee that they sell you in the stores that are.

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You know it's cheap or whatever, because it's filled with molds and other pesticides and other chemicals that aren't good for you.

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So I drink the good stuff right now.

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It's worth it.

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What else are you going to do?

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You know I hate grinding the beans and stuff.

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I do go a little instant now and then, but it happens right.

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No, I yeah.

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It's a world of difference of grinding your own beans and you know, and drinking coffee.

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It's a world world of difference, for sure.

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What?

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What other things have you changed in your life?

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I mean, just touched on camping and stuff like that to deal with some of the trauma that you went through on the job I retired.

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I got out.

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Yeah, it was funny.

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My in 2018, you know, I was at my heaviest.

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I was.

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I just lost one of my buddies.

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I told you of a heart attack and he was a lot better shape than me and he was like man.

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We were connected through our whole careers and was just such a tough loss.

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And you start questioning yourself and your physical capabilities and you know I've lost both my grandfather's heart attacks or lung disease or something like that Right heart attacks or lung disease or something like that Right.

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So you're like, wow, you know, and I remember my wife mentioning about retiring.

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You know, when can you retire?

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And I was like 48 years old in my head.

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I had seven years.

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I had five years of the drop and then two years when I was eligible to retire at 50 years old, but it never really hit me at 50.

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I could just leave, you know, and that's what we ended up doing.

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We sold the house.

00:14:46.533 --> 00:14:58.139
we pretty much knew I wasn't going to get promoted, I wasn't trying to go to nights with two kids at home you know I already saw that life, one I lived through with my mom, so I saw that side, and for the money per hour it wasn't worth it.

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I've already been around too long to figure that out.

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Unless I was going to go up straight through to lieutenant and work my way out, and I wasn't going that route.

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So they had something in our state pension or our police pension about you can retire at 50 years old as long as you got 15 years of service.

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I was like man, I'm going to have almost 19 years of service so I can walk.

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So I sat with the pension lady and she's figuring out your numbers and it wasn't great.

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I wasn't going to be rolling in dough.

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I mean they take your top five, 60 months, and they average it out.

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You know, and that's your pension.

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And we went seven years, went on a raise down in Boynton Beach, Florida, like a lot of people did.

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I was there from the 08 crash of everything and we were just lucky to keep our take-home cars at that point.

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So we went a lot of time where I wasn't able to pad my pension, not getting promoted, certain overtime hurricanes yeah, you can boost it up, but I pretty much know I wasn't going to make a ton.

00:15:47.695 --> 00:15:56.945
But the drop money I left on the table those last five years.

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I don't know if people know, but they invest your retirement money while you're still getting paid for the city and then you walk away sometimes three, four, $500,000, depending on who you are and what rank you are.

00:16:03.542 --> 00:16:06.187
But we decided to leave that five hundred thousand on the table because it wasn't going to be worth it.

00:16:06.187 --> 00:16:11.707
You know we were seeing the statistics of not only cops but pretty much all first responders.

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I mean from dispatchers to firemen.

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I mean the death rates amongst us after we retire.

00:16:15.583 --> 00:16:22.522
Within five years half of us are dying right you know a lot of us because we're hanging on to the job for 35 years, dude, or 30 years.

00:16:22.522 --> 00:16:24.808
That's why, at 20, I was like, yeah, I think this is good.

00:16:24.808 --> 00:16:25.730
My mom did 30.

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I think I like the thing I suffered with her in those 30 years because I was at the end of a lot of stuff.

00:16:33.964 --> 00:16:42.532
But yeah, it just seemed right and I was like, wow, and we had been looking at, like North Carolina, tennessee, that area because my mom had already retired up there.

00:16:42.532 --> 00:16:45.325
So we started looking at it.

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I'm like, yeah, I can get an evidence job somewhere, some civilian job at a department, let's just do it.

00:16:50.101 --> 00:16:59.330
You know, and we've been watching tiny house shows and I'd already been telling people my wife's crazy, she's looking at treehouse shows, storage, you know, shipping containers in the woods.

00:16:59.330 --> 00:17:01.114
Let's freaking carve out window.

00:17:01.114 --> 00:17:02.926
I'm like, oh my God, what's happened?

00:17:02.926 --> 00:17:03.489
Who did I marry?

00:17:04.401 --> 00:17:16.951
And it ended up saving my life because the minute we hit the road in the trailer and I didn't have any of the baggage of a job to go back to which is a crazy feeling to be free like that, especially as a 50 year old with kids and people were like, how'd you do it?

00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:23.191
Well, we didn't have a mortgage and we just had a truck and trailer and you know our places we go.

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You know, obviously food became an issue as prices went up over COVID, but at the initial onset it was a great plan.

00:17:27.868 --> 00:17:32.132
We travel around for two to three years and there's some place out there we're going to make home.

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We don't even know where it is yet.

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It was kind of exciting, you know.

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And then the more you travel, the more addictive you get to traveling, because every place has a unique story.

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Or you know, and if you start following national parks, you start following, you know, the Trail of Tears.

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You really want to learn some sad stuff about our history, you know, and it's just whole time.

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Or homeschooling, you know, I'm learning with my kids.

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Half these places go to.

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So it was just such a fantastic decision, you know, and at the same time you know I'm losing more weight because now I left that stress behind you know, even though, COVID hit, I still lost another 25 pounds.

00:18:09.884 --> 00:18:14.162
I got down to 175 and I hadn't seen that since, like bring in seventh grade.

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It was insane, dude, you know.

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And feeling great, I was motivated.

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You know I'm already helping guys, even with COVID is going on and I saw right through all the BS and you know I just like we got to survive and navigate through this freaking world right now.

00:18:27.209 --> 00:18:36.708
And man, what a journey it is to get out there when every day you open your door it could be something different but you still sleep in the same bed, same shower, your stuff's.

00:18:36.708 --> 00:18:40.218
You don't have as much stuff but it's still where you put it.

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You know I'm saying it's pretty it's pretty wild.

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I wish I did this a lot younger.

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I wish I lived in a trailer as a cop.

00:18:45.932 --> 00:18:51.083
I'd be a millionaire right now because I wouldn't have paid all that money to the banks, you know right.

00:18:51.123 --> 00:18:53.047
I ended up traveling in a trailer anyways.

00:18:53.047 --> 00:18:58.664
I would just had a bigger rv by now, probably so were you a vacationer before this?

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Typical you rush it in, gotta save it for christmas, gotta run up see grandma in tennessee and then hustle back you know the whole vacation.

00:19:07.630 --> 00:19:13.492
You needed a vacation from the vacation you know, and then you're back to the grind over and over again, you know.

00:19:13.553 --> 00:19:17.428
So, yeah, you know, my wife ended up once we had our first child.

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She ended up staying at home.

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It wasn't planned and it was just one of those things that felt right.

00:19:22.028 --> 00:19:27.626
And she became a stay at home mom and raising our two boys, and she was never one to ever be that.

00:19:27.626 --> 00:19:31.671
She was not what she had planned on in life, but she wouldn't change anything.

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Now I mean our relationship with our boys by being with them on a daily basis, teaching them, learning with them, learning stuff.

00:19:39.924 --> 00:19:43.673
I thought I knew the answers to you know it's really awesome.

00:19:46.220 --> 00:19:47.665
Instead of asking teachers, they're asking you and then you can learn.

00:19:47.665 --> 00:19:51.099
You know you find the answers together, you know, and it's just especially the way the school systems are now and stuff.

00:19:51.099 --> 00:19:57.001
You're like, wow, good thing they're with us right now, but they're learning how survival stuff I mean, we're on a farm right now.

00:19:57.001 --> 00:20:07.230
They just had an airsoft war, them and a little farm kids here, and they got their mask on and you know they're lighting each other up and we had an incident where one shot one without they weren't on the range.

00:20:07.230 --> 00:20:13.593
So we just had a little training issue and the guns are off the playing table today.

00:20:13.593 --> 00:20:22.993
But you know, they're learning stuff like that out of both fires and they know more about nutrition than I ever knew, ever in my life, until they've just been sucking it up.

00:20:22.993 --> 00:20:23.996
They read the back of labels.

00:20:23.996 --> 00:20:25.692
They're like Dad, what are you doing with that energy drink?

00:20:25.692 --> 00:20:31.868
Once in a while I want a bang energy drink or whatever right and they'll just make me feel like you're probably right.

00:20:31.900 --> 00:20:34.769
If I can't pronounce half those chemicals on it, I probably don't need to Even me.

00:20:35.500 --> 00:20:45.891
I still slip up now and then, but they're a good uh gauge you know, yeah, I mean no one's uh too perfect right, especially traveling the country.

00:20:45.891 --> 00:20:49.703
I'm sure you know it could be a little bit challenging to be on keto.

00:20:49.743 --> 00:21:00.805
Maybe, as far as I mean it gets planned, I think you have to be planned yeah, we have a freezer with us and we we kind of know where the farmers markets are and we do ask around, we go out to them, we talk to the farmers.

00:21:00.805 --> 00:21:02.609
Hey, man, do you grasp?

00:21:02.609 --> 00:21:03.653
You know what type of beef?

00:21:03.653 --> 00:21:03.972
How?

00:21:03.992 --> 00:21:04.233
do you?

00:21:04.294 --> 00:21:04.775
raise it.

00:21:04.775 --> 00:21:07.844
You know, regenerative farming is one of the things we're big into.

00:21:07.844 --> 00:21:11.567
And then we get invited out to their farms or we'll ask hey, can we come check your farm out?

00:21:11.567 --> 00:21:18.689
We're looking at homesteading ourselves yeah and then you make friends with them and you're like, hey, we want to buy a quarter cow or an eighth of a cow.

00:21:18.689 --> 00:21:22.402
Yeah, next thing, you know, you load up, you're not, it's not cheap.

00:21:22.521 --> 00:21:29.608
But at least you're getting a reasonable deal and you know where it's coming from right you know, and and it's not as bad as you think now my boys are eating a little more.

00:21:29.608 --> 00:21:35.009
You know, there is some issue about us when we start homesteading, how many animals we're gonna have.

00:21:35.009 --> 00:21:43.771
I thought we just have some like chickens and goats, but now I'm like I think we're gonna need a couple of cows because, the way the government's going right now, we want to be in control of our meat yeah, yeah.

00:21:44.933 --> 00:21:46.681
So where does this end for you?

00:21:46.681 --> 00:21:48.404
Where's, where's your end game with this?

00:21:50.008 --> 00:21:53.642
with the keto, or this homestead, or life, life, how about?

00:21:53.843 --> 00:22:02.128
life life right now is um like to get some land, have a whole, have enough room that, even have a cops and campers campground there possibly.

00:22:02.128 --> 00:22:05.670
That would of course entail more land, but hey, things happen.

00:22:05.670 --> 00:22:18.096
And doing my own retreat programs there, whether it's on a massive scale, 50 campers to 100, or doing it 10 to 5, depending on what type of therapy guys need.

00:22:18.096 --> 00:22:24.780
I mean, that's kind of what I'm doing now, except I'm traveling to different campgrounds to do it, which is awesome, but one day that's the end game.

00:22:24.780 --> 00:22:28.692
Have a farm, have guys come out, they want some work therapy, All right, I need.

00:22:28.692 --> 00:22:42.153
You know let's put up some fences or we need to move the pigs from one field to the other or something, just to get them get their minds off of it, Especially now I've come in contact with so many cops and fire and first responders in the camping world.

00:22:42.153 --> 00:22:45.945
A lot of us are camping and sometimes they're.

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You know they're missing out on stuff.

00:22:47.451 --> 00:22:51.550
You know we're not part of lineups or shifts or platoons.

00:22:51.550 --> 00:22:55.451
You're kind of missing out a little bit.

00:22:55.500 --> 00:23:03.652
So when you find a whole new world of guys, it's like going to a new department where you get along with everybody Because no one's like pissed you off yet no one's backstabbed you because of a promotion.

00:23:03.779 --> 00:23:05.384
These are, it's all a fresh you know.

00:23:05.384 --> 00:23:27.346
Start, you know and you end up meeting some real guys that come through the same shit as you, man, same problems, whether it's with their wife, kids, a boss, a parent, whatever they may have, a kid on drugs, whatever you find someone there that's going through the same shit you know, it's almost going like the AA and you realize you're not the only one and it's refreshing and it's healing.

00:23:27.887 --> 00:23:34.276
You know a lot of guys sitting around the campfire were bullshit and you know, and they won't say anything, but they're there.

00:23:35.018 --> 00:23:35.298
Yeah.

00:23:35.439 --> 00:23:40.028
You know, that's the start, you know, and then they start realizing all right, you know, and then they'll talk to you later.

00:23:40.028 --> 00:23:46.528
You know, and that's what, the biggest things that happened at our first cops and campers event was the amount of people that came on and go.

00:23:46.528 --> 00:23:47.711
Man, you got to keep this going.

00:23:47.711 --> 00:23:51.598
This is just so therapeutic guys getting out here and you're, and you're in a safe zone.

00:23:51.598 --> 00:23:58.528
You're not at a regular campground where there's already a lot of military and you know first responders anyways, but it's a different vibe.

00:23:58.528 --> 00:24:03.096
You know, you kind of feel like, all right, I'm safe here, my family's safe.

00:24:03.096 --> 00:24:07.464
It's just, you know, and it all started because of a you know campground told me to take down my flag.

00:24:07.464 --> 00:24:08.648
I mean, everything's got to forget.

00:24:08.648 --> 00:24:09.583
My life is insane.

00:24:09.583 --> 00:24:13.580
Sometimes it's all got a story Like what was that Slumdog millionaire?

00:24:13.580 --> 00:24:16.426
Every answer to the question it was back.

00:24:16.426 --> 00:24:19.291
The guy could remember it because it was something huge that happened.

00:24:19.511 --> 00:24:20.594
That's what's happening to me right now.

00:24:24.059 --> 00:24:26.423
If I'm, you know, my brother and all kinds of crazy stuff.

00:24:26.423 --> 00:24:28.144
You know, yeah, what is Cops and Campers.

00:24:28.164 --> 00:24:29.046
So Cops and Campers.

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Originally, what happened was doing the nutrition thing and putting my flag out.

00:24:34.393 --> 00:24:37.256
I would meet a lot of people and I would walk up who's the cop in the family?

00:24:37.256 --> 00:24:38.821
My dad's a cop, my mom's a cop.

00:24:38.821 --> 00:24:39.564
I'm a cop, you know.

00:24:39.564 --> 00:24:40.365
You just start talking.

00:24:40.385 --> 00:24:47.932
They're like you're a cop because I got long hair and you can't see it now, but long hair, I got the beard, I look like a, you know, a hippie or surfer guy or something, a skateboarder.

00:24:47.932 --> 00:24:49.627
And they're like you're a cog or not?

00:24:49.627 --> 00:24:52.901
Well, I'm retired and you know, and we get into it and they start understanding.

00:24:52.901 --> 00:25:03.666
I show them before and after photos of me at 250 pounds and then they see me now in their own, they see me, they can almost touch me and stuff, and you're like, oh my God, this guy like actually exists.

00:25:03.666 --> 00:25:05.080
He's not an infomercial Right.

00:25:05.080 --> 00:25:07.106
And then I'm not selling them anything.

00:25:07.106 --> 00:25:13.951
I was like, hey, man, you just got to really look at this stuff, you know, and try to just promote, you know, nutrition education for them.

00:25:13.951 --> 00:25:21.432
You know, and that was the path everywhere I go, I was hoping to maybe get a sponsorship like a pork rind company.

00:25:21.472 --> 00:25:24.748
Hey, you know, we want you to drive around and hand out bags of pork rinds.

00:25:24.788 --> 00:25:27.363
I'm like hey, I'll do it right, instead of Doritos, it's much better.

00:25:27.363 --> 00:25:29.086
That's just a little keto trick for you.

00:25:29.086 --> 00:25:49.770
And then we go to a campground in New York and it was a thousand trails camping club we were part of and I put up the flag, like I always do set up, and then I go to the playground and watching my kids play around I just made myself a cocktail of victory cocktail, you know and a guy rolls up on a golf cart and tells me dude, you got to take your flag now.

00:25:49.770 --> 00:25:51.051
And I thought he was just messing with me.

00:25:51.051 --> 00:25:52.773
You know, I was like what it's like?

00:25:52.773 --> 00:25:54.316
No, you got to take your thin blue line flags.

00:25:54.316 --> 00:25:58.661
And then I recorded them and I lost my shit a little bit on the recording.

00:25:58.661 --> 00:25:59.221
I stopped it.

00:25:59.221 --> 00:26:05.493
I never touched the guy, even though everyone thinks by the time I was probably putting my boot to his head or something, but I didn't.

00:26:05.513 --> 00:26:07.619
And it turned into more.

00:26:07.619 --> 00:26:09.790
The manager tried to kick us out.

00:26:09.790 --> 00:26:13.474
They were going to call New York State Police to arrest the cop for not leaving because it was flag.

00:26:13.474 --> 00:26:16.719
I mean, it was bizarro world, but everything was crazy in 2021, right?

00:26:16.719 --> 00:26:20.503
So I just remember I'm not leaving.

00:26:20.503 --> 00:26:22.770
So we ended up staying there for eight days.

00:26:22.770 --> 00:26:23.814
I was just an irritant.

00:26:23.814 --> 00:26:29.577
I'm not taking my flag down and better yet, I'm going to reach out to everyone I know in this world and I'm going to tell them about this.

00:26:29.679 --> 00:26:31.021
And it freaking caught fire.

00:26:31.021 --> 00:26:34.734
So next thing you know, hudson Valley News came out, did a news story.

00:26:34.734 --> 00:26:38.280
They had a rally there the following week at a tractor supply store.

00:26:38.280 --> 00:26:41.250
Like 50 cars and trucks showed up with thin blue line flags.

00:26:41.250 --> 00:26:46.872
So I drove all the way from Niagara Falls back from my own rally and they had me second in the parade.

00:26:46.872 --> 00:26:48.015
It was freaking awesome.

00:26:48.015 --> 00:26:49.317
And then we got stopped.

00:26:49.317 --> 00:26:57.569
Our plan was to go back to the old campground that was screwing with me and then we had cops camping inside and we were going to all show up and just fill it with police flags everywhere.

00:26:57.670 --> 00:26:59.657
I'll throw it down and knock them in the ground.

00:26:59.657 --> 00:27:04.582
But New York State Police got a got word of it and they stopped us and pushed us back.

00:27:04.582 --> 00:27:11.234
So at one point at that rally point I was in the back on the back of a truck saying thank you everyone for supporting and I go.

00:27:11.234 --> 00:27:17.640
We're going to start something called Cops and Campers and go to pro first responder campgrounds where they want us, where flags aren't an issue.

00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:20.162
You know, it's just kind of a hoot and hollering moment.

00:27:20.663 --> 00:27:20.803
Yeah.

00:27:20.903 --> 00:27:24.285
And then it just kind of started getting more feedback yeah, we should start a freaking.

00:27:24.285 --> 00:27:26.887
I want to go where you guys are going.

00:27:26.887 --> 00:27:31.553
And I was like, all right, let's kind of run with this.

00:27:31.553 --> 00:27:33.154
And we finally went nonprofit last November.

00:27:33.154 --> 00:27:40.424
People smarter than me said dude, you got to do something with this because trying to run a business, cops and campers isn't the same, you know trying to sell some t-shirts.

00:27:45.750 --> 00:27:51.811
Hey, you know, but doing it for mental health seemed like, wow, this is really a great avenue to get guys to the party, to the barbecue, to the campfire, and let's talk about mental health and also your physical health.

00:27:51.811 --> 00:27:53.736
You know that belly you got is going to kill you.

00:27:53.736 --> 00:27:55.618
You know it's going to lead to heart disease.

00:27:55.618 --> 00:27:56.599
You're going to have a heart attack.

00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.204
Everyone dies of heart attacks, you know.

00:27:59.204 --> 00:28:02.277
So why are you going to just give into it at a young age?

00:28:02.277 --> 00:28:04.682
Let's enjoy your retirement.

00:28:04.682 --> 00:28:07.013
You know, do some more camping and fishing trips.

00:28:07.013 --> 00:28:08.999
So it just kind of built.

00:28:09.098 --> 00:28:21.738
And when we had our first event, a guy named Patrick Shaver who had done a couple of documentaries, police stuff he's actually done a bunch, he's a retired cop himself he said, hey, man, why don't we do a documentary called Cops and Campers and we'll film it?

00:28:21.738 --> 00:28:28.323
And so he put it together with me and we made a 30 minute documentary that's on YouTube just to kind of show what it's about.

00:28:28.323 --> 00:28:33.346
And now we use it for, obviously, to promotion if they want to see what goes on.

00:28:33.346 --> 00:28:33.887
But it's real.

00:28:33.887 --> 00:28:38.576
I mean we have cornhole tournaments, we have the National Guard comes out with the obstacle course.

00:28:38.576 --> 00:28:39.619
There's a big pool there.

00:28:39.619 --> 00:28:42.115
We have a live band that night.

00:28:42.635 --> 00:28:44.279
I mean I got this year, I got yoga.

00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:50.622
I got Dr Robert Kiltz, who's big on the carnivore keto world, coming out to talk about metabolic health, ptsd and your diet.

00:28:50.622 --> 00:28:58.347
And also Kevin Donaldson's coming out and he wrote the book man You're Crazy and he's got his own PTS journey.

00:28:58.347 --> 00:28:59.755
So now I'm starting to get in yoga.

00:28:59.755 --> 00:29:05.557
Rescue's coming, van's going to do some yoga for us, so it's like I'm getting some people now that are part of my.

00:29:05.679 --> 00:29:06.942
You know, I'm putting together my cabinet.

00:29:07.303 --> 00:29:08.730
Yeah, all these all star people.

00:29:08.809 --> 00:29:11.734
I think that would help me or it's going to help everybody else.

00:29:11.734 --> 00:29:13.278
So that's what we're doing, man, it's starting to.

00:29:13.278 --> 00:29:16.222
You know, I got some comedians that want to eventually come out.

00:29:16.222 --> 00:29:17.203
They couldn't do it this year.

00:29:17.203 --> 00:29:25.047
So I think I'm going to make a Friday night comedy night and then have Saturday be the rock and roll night in the future.

00:29:25.047 --> 00:29:40.384
And you know, this place is very special because when we got that flag incident we got suspended from the camping group for two months so I couldn't camp with it.

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I mean I could go to different campsites but kind of threw off our whole itinerary for the trip that year.

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And four different campgrounds in upstate New York said bring your flag, your rig and your family, you're staying with us.

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And they covered the whole time.

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Well, ithaca, at Spruce Row with Scott.

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He was the first one that reached out.

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He had his son do it on Twitter or Instagram, I don't remember.

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I wasn't even all about social media, and then I was just trying to camp and promote nutrition and they go, bring, come on over.

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And I got there and you know they actually had a charity event Hold on, hey, sorry.

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Well, once in a while the kids come in and forget I'm in here.

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And I go, hey, let's do an actual cops and cameras event.

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He's like, let's do it, and the band's already retired cops, you know called Taylor May.

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Then do it, and the band's already retired cops, you know called taylor made and they sing singing southern rock, and I was like, man, this is gonna be awesome.

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So we're coming up on our third event there this year.

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I've done two in georgia.

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Um, I think those are gonna pick up.

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I just gotta lock in a good time, um, because time of year, you know to try to in camping you know, it's a lot going into campers.

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it's just not a weekend trip.

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But but yeah, they want me to go to Austin, texas now, and Utah and I'm like wow.

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So, yeah, it's, it's I bit off a little more than I could chew, but it's for a good reason, it's a good cause and I got a lot of good people looking out to help me, you know.

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So yeah that's how it started.

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It was just camping with a flag.

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It's crazy.

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Yeah, that's awesome.

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It's an awesome story and it's gonna be super cool to see uh, see you grow.

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Excuse me, eric, where can people find you and follow you and see what's going on?

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you follow me at keto50.com or copsandcamperscom.

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Um, there you can see all the stories behind the scenes, everything from my shooting and all that stuff.

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I, I mean I, I, you know I have talked a lot about that and that situation and then obviously, how it led to me being metabolically sick at the same time.

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You know from the stresses of it, but yeah, I'm also able to be reached out through email.

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You know, it's the same thing.

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You can find me everything through keto50.com.

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Perfect, perfect Well, thank you, eric.

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Thank you for being on today.

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All right, man thanks for having me.

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